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08 Aug 2014 18:07
ncogneto_01 wrote:
What I am speaking to is jurisdiction, not property or the like. Just because you put the word private in front of it doesn't necessarily mean it's private, needing an entity like a national government to "protect" that property proves the point.


What one of your juvenile children call private property and the other juvenile child call private property is subject to your (the parent's) definition and arbitrary will -- that is the law of your household.

That micro-example can be extended...

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Maybe it would benefit to ask the same questions to the bank associate. " Is it not appropriate to have 'by' in front of the name if you're...
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This subject raises another question, mostly just out of curiosity. If we are at the bank and do not have our check book, we can always...
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Use of the word "By:" before the signature.


The bank I use questioned my usage of the word "By:" before my signature, and when I didn't...
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06 Aug 2014 13:01
Andrew55 wrote:
Hi. I live in Canada and want to know how applicable
the private express trust wording is for me.

-Drew

Hi Drew,

Great question. Our trust indenture (contract) is applicable anywhere in the world and recognizable by any common law jurisdiction, which means any country that stems historically from the Union Jack and some other countries as well. We have numerous GTEN members in Canada as well as UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc. No changes will be needed in any of the wording.

Cheers,
Christian...

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Kyrie wrote:
I appreciate your thoroughness with this post. Nice work.


Thanks for the encouragement Kyrie, and thanks to Christian, PJ, Eric and all of...
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[Part 7 of 7, continued from previous post]



Some concluding observations and a couple of questions:


The Supreme Court case law (Julliard v. Greenman) says that we must...
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[Part 6 of 7, continued from previous post]



Regarding “Trust Account” and “Special Instructions on the Account Contract”, I made a note in my initial viewing of Webinar...
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[Part 5 of 7, continued from previous post]



ENDORSEMENT (LFS video #11, approximately 4:05 mark):


Christian: Deposits… it’s the same thing. If you’re depositing a check...
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[Part 4 of 7, continued from previous post]


Some applicable Webinar dialogue: ('snip' indicates where one section of dialog stops and I skipped to another section)

LFS video #11,...
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[Part 3 of 7, continued from previous post]



Supreme Court Case Law:


We know from Julliard v. Greenman (U.S. Supreme Court, 1884) that a bank always has to function in either one...
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[Part 2 of 7, continued from previous post]


In the LFS webinar (video segment #11), Eric tells about his experience spending 3 hours in the office of the bank’s legal department...
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Since getting a bank account opened (or modified) for “Lawful Money” purposes may be the first thing many who take the course “Living...
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Kyrie wrote:
About three months ago I began writing the words "Redeem for lawful coin-based money of the United States of America" underneath my...
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About three months ago I began writing the words "Redeem for lawful coin-based money of the United States of America" underneath my...
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Kyrie wrote:
I just received this link from a friend. Since I'm not a State Citizen, it's not applicable to my situation, but I assume that it would be...
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Scott - 3 wrote:
Hopefully a review of the last segment of the LFS webinar will yield some further information on this subject, and if so, I will post...
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Oh, and if the bankers try to tell you that they can't give you an account because there is a part of the process where they MUST enter a...
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I just received this link from a friend. Since I'm not a State Citizen, it's not applicable to my situation, but I assume that it would be...
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02 Aug 2014 17:28
Let me take this to a totally different level.

The USA is so intrusive (NSA et al), and NYS so paranoid (since 911) that if you push this it will only get worse, here's how: let's say you took this to NYS court and you lost in the lower court but eventually won in the court of appeals for NYS, such that your case is now the law for the state.

Here's is what would happen with lightening speed, the NYS legislature would get together to create a law that would specifically define what specific...
02 Aug 2014 15:05
The fact that she officiated for you twice before should tell you that she isn't a hardcore stickler.

You are refusing to recognize the fundamentals of what I told you:

1) everything is about 'information and belief' apparently even though she might have had doubts about your ID for the 1st or 2nd jobs, she did it anyway trusting more than proving.

Apparently, there was something about the third situation that triggered a red flag, and given your overblown response she is probably...

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All Rights Reserved wrote:
just a little note regarding administrative process: two sources for my learning and implementing numerous processes are Mastery In Commerce...
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02 Aug 2014 11:26
I sense a blurring of lines...I reference that notary public license law but I am not standing on that. There are several pieces to this.

The Notary officiated twice. On a third time the Notary failed to officiate without providing verifiable lawful cause for the failure. This is a breach of contract.

Second, the Notary is public servant and has a fiduciary duty to officiate provided they are shown what they require, which is at least "satisfactory evidence". In this case the Notary was...

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just a little note regarding administrative process: two sources for my learning and implementing numerous processes are Mastery In Commerce...
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What do you say to the cop who stops you?

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Sam asked:

What I would like to know (and maybe you have covered this latterly)
is what grounds have been used for the rescission of a...
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Thanks guys, appreciate the insights - I especially like your angle Christian;
the price of Freedom, viz; we only have ourselves to blame...
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31 Jul 2014 16:13
This is the first webinar in our Private Trust Education series. For this week only the entire webinar is available with a donation of only $189!!! That's only a third of the normal cost!!! Register here

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31 Jul 2014 09:11
"credible witness" only applies in certain states (ie: florida). When I was a notary in NY you could not do that, laws change often so it's possible that that could be the case there now but I doubt it.

In Fl unlike NY a notary DOES have the legal right to refused to officiate for any reason or no reason at all.

I've done the 'Credible Witness' notarization many times in FL, it's a painful process that most notaries are unfamiliar with and would choose not to do because it has so many moving...
29 Jul 2014 19:35
ncogneto_01 wrote:
The first thing I thought of when I read this was drivers license. They'll call it something that sounds like a generalization and make the public think it covers all forms of fire-arms and get people to apply. Then deny them for all sorts of reasons, take their PRIVILAGE away, collect all sorts of revenue and tax it to the point that it won't even seem worth it. Start charging huge fines to dealers till they can't sell and restrict ammunition to the point of extinction.

Like they've already...

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Kyrie wrote:
Not that I'm any expert on the subject, but I have had some success with opening bank accounts without using a SSN. The first case was my...
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Paypal can be used autonomously. It can be used as an account. You can apply for a Paypal debit and never transfer the balance, just use the...
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Christian wrote:
If you want to modify an existing account, the easiest way is to tell them your signature has changed and put the information on the new...
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Ideally, if opening a new account, the account paperwork special instructions include something like: "Special deposit trust account. All...
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28 Jul 2014 21:49
I was referring to them witnessing attestation, affirmation, etc.

I recently took the notary public class just for the education on it and that's what they told us: If we didn't feel comfortable with the I.D., we didn't know them personally, and they don't have a credible witness, don't do it. Of course we just skimmed through the book and its only an 8 hour class so I don't have much faith that notaries know the laws concerning their role. The biggest complaint by the instructor (who was also...
28 Jul 2014 01:22
I like where you are going with this...

-"Perhaps a Holding Trust, as a Living Man type trust would want to take the place of the CORPORATION from the above scenario. It could lien the PERSON and only avail itself through the PUBLIC filings. Of course the Holding Trust would be liened privately by the Master Trust by borrowing commodities and loaning lawful money to be converted to legal tender for the PERSON to borrow."

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Knowing from experience, It is a little bit of all of those things. One must know and understand consent in this realm. One must also be...
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Scott - 3 wrote:
To the best of my understanding (from the LFS webinar), opening any new bank account in the USA these days will require an SSN, due to some...
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NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE

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Here is a Lesson on what the cops mean when they say "Anything you say can and will be used against you". The first half of this...
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26 Jul 2014 16:47
Just found out about this, some very interesting language was used, now that I have been alerted to how definitions of words are often used to mean things that would not be immediately apparent in everyday common language usage:


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"In light of Heller, McDonald, and their progeny, there is no longer any basis on which this Court can conclude that the District of Columbia’s total ban on the public carrying of ready-to-use...

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ncogneto_01 wrote:
Yea, I'm going to have to watch the rest of the series, I've only seen part 1. I went through all the webinars in order so this is the last...
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Yea, I'm going to have to watch the rest of the series, I've only seen part 1. I went through all the webinars in order so this is the last...
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ncogneto_01 wrote:
I just started the LFS series so I may be a little off in this but would it be easier to just open a new account? You have to sign all new...
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I just started the LFS series so I may be a little off in this but would it be easier to just open a new account? You have to sign all new...
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26 Jul 2014 09:32
I understand the theory and concept of how, but my question is why. If you're not using the PERSON, who cares who comes after it? If you did for some reason have an attachment to the PERSON, would you really want to have the Man lien the PERSON? How would you stand behind that and enforce it in a court type scenario without looking dual-minded?

An idea that I had, if your absolutely attached to your PERSON and refuse to let it go; what if you set up a PUBLIC ENTITY(LLC, 503, etc.) or was...

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wouldn't be easier if a new "special deposits non interest bearing trust account" could be open?
I think you'll need to show the trust...
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wouldn't be easier if a new "special deposits non interest bearing trust account" could be open?
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THE ALMIGHTY ENDORSEMENT!!! What experiences have any of you had in using a qualified endorsement to make demand for lawful money? Any...
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All of this raises another question:


For purposes of endorsing checks that have been made payable to me, when I endorse such checks on the...
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This is the rough draft of the letter I was considering sending to the regional bank manager:



Dear ____________ (regional bank manager),...
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i have an old non-interest account, and as soon as I got this lawful money info i started just endorsing the check, depositing on "my" bank...
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i have an old non-interest account, and as soon as I got this lawful money info i started just endorsing the check, depositing on "my" bank...
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You can avoid such fees once you have your account at your bank set up for special deposits redeemed in lawful money as described in Living...
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As to your first question, the check cashing fees I've seen for non-account holders range from $5 (most typical) to $10. $15 or $20 is...
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Adventures in check cashing and/or depositing.

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30 Jun 2014 18:12
Hi folks,

We received the following question in an email from one of our members. It struck me as a great question to learn from, so I'm sharing it here along with the answer provided. The member's personal information has been removed.

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My person has received a summons for jury duty next month. I submitted a request for permanent exemption claiming:

1. Undue hardship
2. Extreme inconvenience
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12 May 2014 10:18
The GTEN Forum is a meeting place for free inhabitants to discuss a wide range of topics related to consciousness, natural law, the organic laws, rights, freedom, sovereignty, commerce, contracts, trusts, asset protection, conscious creation and the like.

The Main Discussion Forum, Special Offers & Events Forum, Bad Cop No Donut, and Cancer Cures Forum are free and open to everyone, as long as you subscribe to the GTEN.org Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and forum rules. We hope this forum will be...
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07 May 2014 20:33
FAQ (Frequently asked questions)


This is the GTEN.org FAQ. For GTEN Forum information, please see the Forum Selection and Rules post.

What is a trust?

Black's Law 2nd Edition:

An equitable or beneficial right or title to land or other property, held for the beneficiary by another person, in whom resides the legal title or ownership, recognized and enforced by courts of chancery.

An obligation arising out of a confidence reposed in the trustee or representative, who has the legal title to...
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